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Jellyroll
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:25 pm    Post subject: Leaders  Reply with quote

Just wondering what people do for leaders.  I lost a fish last week due to a bad rushed knot in my leader.  I have always tied my own leaders but decided to change to a tapered leader which was rated 8lb but the tip was very small (much smaller than my 8lb leader material) making me wonder if it is strong enough.
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Hook Bill
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use tapers, never have issues really.  Make sure the Tippett is 6 or 8 lb, good to go.
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Chadman
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use straight 8 lb test leader material for salmon fishing.. I do not make or taper my leaders.. the only fancy knot you'll find made with my leader material is the Duncan loop which I use to attach the fly.  I do the same for trout but usually around 4 lb test.  I do ok in the fish catching department with this setup, no complaints... well one complaint, not enough fishing time lately! lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use tapered leaders either furled, flourocarbon, extruded, Doak's blood knotted, or polyleaders but I make sure they are rated 10 or 12 lb and add 8lb maxima for tippet using a simple double surgeon (overhand) knot.
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gdog
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wannafish wrote:
I use tapered leaders either furled, flourocarbon, extruded, Doak's blood knotted, or polyleaders but I make sure they are rated 10 or 12 lb and add 8lb maxima for tippet using a simple double surgeon (overhand) knot.


I never heard about furled leader before.. but funny enough someone stopped by the office yesterday morning with his reel in hand with this type of leader... which look pretty cool and now today you mention this leader as well. I've been reading on this since then and it look pretty awesome, I will give this a try...

also found this cool video on leader and furled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_D_9DvWWk

How to do it here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs
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percy1939
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: leaders Reply with quote

I make my own.  Have all my life. I have 30lb, 25lb, 20lb, 15lb, 12lb, 10lb,
I use various formulas  I have learned over the years and are available on
the Internet.   Length and strength depends on what kind of fish, what kind of fly, what size fly and water conditions.

I actually tie forward taper leaders for casting large bass bugs into the wind.  They also work quite well on Bombers.

Search on Google for salmon fly leaders for more info.
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korlando
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



I have had good luck with these from Doaks.  Looped end to attach to the fly line and tapered with blood knots every foot or so.  They are sufficiently strong and don't tend to kink as much as plain tapered leaders.

I always attach a piece of 8lb test Maxima at the end to get desired length of leader.  I always tie this on with my knot tool.  I honestly have not lost many fish over the years.

I have used the plain tapered leaders before and find that the 8lb test ones seem fragile at the tip, so I have cut a couple feet off of them and then attached my Maxima as above again, with good luck.

many ways to skin a cat.
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korlando
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdog wrote:
wannafish wrote:
I use tapered leaders either furled, flourocarbon, extruded, Doak's blood knotted, or polyleaders but I make sure they are rated 10 or 12 lb and add 8lb maxima for tippet using a simple double surgeon (overhand) knot.


I never heard about furled leader before.. but funny enough someone stopped by the office yesterday morning with his reel in hand with this type of leader... which look pretty cool and now today you mention this leader as well. I've been reading on this since then and it look pretty awesome, I will give this a try...

also found this cool video on leader and furled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_D_9DvWWk

How to do it here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs


That furled leader looks interesting.  I have had issues with small dry trout flies where the memory in the tapered leader affects the presentation of the fly.  These may solve that issue.
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wannafish
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a link to the ones I've been using. You can use a small metal tippet ring or loop to loop connection to the tippet. The tapered furl will turn over up to 6 feet or more tippet depending on fly size!

http://www.wonderfurl.com/


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